What Humans, Animals and Plants Tell Us About Consciousness | Michael Pollan
28. september 2026 · 2h 2m
Michael Pollan is a renowned author, journalist and professor at UC Berkeley. He is best known for his influential works on how humans and plants have shaped each other at the level of food, medicine, health, and culture. In this episode we discuss consciousness—what it is and how the recognition between our self vs others contributes to-- but also can impair, certain aspects of conscious experience. We discuss psychedelics, the microbiome, caffeine, and how the unconscious dialogue between our body and brain impacts our thoughts and feelings. Pollan offers a hopeful perspective on how our relationship with plants and animals – including other humans, can lead us to a healthier, and far richer experience of life.
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Timestamps
(00:00:00) Michael Pollan
(00:02:50) Wendell Berry, Nature
(00:06:30) Consciousness; Sentience
(00:10:04) Environmental Response, Plant Intelligence; Self-Recognition
(00:13:52) Sponsors: Eight Sleep & Rorra
(00:20:49) Plants, Communication, Sentience, Symbiosis
(00:27:37) Self-Awareness, Time; Xenobots, Instinct
(00:34:32) Microbiome, Influence & Symbiosis
(00:40:28) Meaning; Cortex vs Brain Stem, Homeostatic Feelings
(00:47:17) Sponsor: AG1
(00:48:36) Body & Brain Communication, Vagus Nerve
(00:57:21) Collective Consciousness, Psychedelics, Ego, Awe
(01:08:14) Filter Theories of Consciousness
(01:13:28) Sponsor: Function
(01:15:06) AI, Consciousness, Feelings; Memory; Quantum Effects
(01:21:27) Childhood, Gardening, Interacting with Nature
(01:27:08) Hope, Nature & Agency, Food Industry
(01:32:21) Advocacy, Psychedelics, Food Industry
(01:39:50) Sponsor: Mateina
(01:44:52) Psychedelics, Ibogaine, Veterans, Politics; MDMA, Psilocybin; Risk
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