The Intertwined Legacies of Gloria Steinem and Dolly Parton

Gloria Steinem, the feminist icon and co-founder of Ms. magazine, died on Wednesday at her home in Manhattan. Her death came as many were still grieving the loss of another iconic woman: Dolly Parton.

On paper, the connections between the two women seem superficial, but for the Times Magazine writer Susan Dominus, the relationship between their lives and impact is inescapable.

Guest: 

• Susan Dominus, a staff writer at The New York Times Magazine.
• Letty Cottin Pogrebin, a writer and pioneer of the feminist movement who was part of the team that founded Ms. magazine with Gloria Steinem.

Background reading: 

• In “9 to 5,” Dolly Parton put a friendly face on feminism.
• Gloria Steinem, the personification of the women’s movement, died at 92.

Photo: Robin Platzer/Getty Images

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