S15·E14 John Kasich; Gabriel Sherman; Philip Mudd; George Packer; Maya Wiley

Bill's interview guest is Ohio's Republican Governor and former Presidential Candidate, John Kasich. The Governor's new book is "Two Paths: America Divided or United." Bill's roundtable guests are Civil Rights Activist Maya Wiley, Novelist and Journalist George Packer, Ex-Deputy Director of the CIA's Counter-Terrorism Center Phillip Mudd and the National Affairs Editor of New York Magazine, Gabriel Sherman.