Known risks | Spiral Ep 3

10 de noviembre de 2026 · 46m

After 23-year-old Zane Shamblin dies by suicide, his parents uncover the chat logs detailing his final months talking to ChatGPT. And Patricia meets the lawyer now taking on OpenAI, arguing the company’s chatbot is legally liable for Zane’s death.


Reported by Patricia Clarke

Produced by Katie Gunning

Sound design by Hannah Varrall

Development production by Jess Swinburne and Owen Thomas

Artwork by Jon Hill and Michelle Thompson

Narrative editor is Gary Marshall

Executive producers are Jasper Corbett and Basia Cummings


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