Michael Lewis: Don't Bet Against the Country

Destroying trust in the government is one of Trump's key sources of power, but Michael reports from the front lines of the deep state that there still are good employees serving the public interest. In his new book, Michael celebrates some of the heroes who either managed to survive DOGE—or were stupidly pushed out despite the vital roles they filled. And the absolute failures of DOGE raise serious questions about how Elon could be trusted to run any enterprise. Plus: Trump sure sounded like he was inviting Iran to bomb two big blue cities, and Republicans are rushing money to South Carolina and a very GOP district in Kentucky. Seems like Tim and Bill were onto something with their long-shot midterms picks on Monday.

Michael Lewis joins Tim Miller.

show notes:

• Michael's new book, "Blockers: Rebels in the Deep State"
• Tim's 'Take' on how Trump's corporate enablers should be worried about 2027
• Michael's post-Katrina piece, "Wading Toward Home"
• "The Fifth Risk," Michael's book on Trump 1.0
• Michael on Sam Bankman-Fried, "Going Infinite: The Rise and Fall of a New Tycoon"
• October Suprise: The Bulwark is 30% off
• Upcoming Bulwark LIVE shows, including Atlanta on Oct. 20
• Closing Song: MJ Lenderman - She’s Leaving You
• The Bulwark’s campaign to help the Haitian community of Springfield
• The Bulwark store