S23·E8 March 14, 2025: Gov. Josh Shapiro, Sam Stein, Batya Ungar-Sargon

Guests: An interview with Democratic governor of Pennsylvania, Gov. Josh Shapiro. This week's panel discussion includes Sam Stein, managing editor of The Bulwark and MSNBC contributor; and Batya Ungar-Sargon, journalist and author of "Second Class: How the Elites Betrayed America's Working Men and Women."